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Old 04-28-2017, 12:13 AM   #51
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You mean like Cinemascore that gave the same score as Green Lantern?

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Old 04-28-2017, 12:51 AM   #52
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You mean like Cinemascore that gave the same score as Green Lantern?
I've never used that site, but the likes of IMDb, Metacritic & even Rotten Tomatoes user reviews in which I'm sure there are hundreds of thousands, the last time I checked the movie was getting 6's & 7's out of 10 (60% - 70% out of 100%).

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Old 04-28-2017, 12:55 AM   #53
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Is it? I'm talking about the actual paying public's reviews & thoughts which ultimately are the driving force behind any potential box office numbers moreso than what a paid & employed critic thinks.
And as the box office showed, the reviews were not good from the public. Hence the very poor legs.

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Old 04-28-2017, 01:10 AM   #54
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And as the box office showed, the reviews were not good from the public. Hence the very poor legs.
The public's perception seemed to be exactly the way I originally worded it in my initial post, lukewarm, which as you say contributed to it not having good legs in it's BO run.

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The public's perception seemed to be exactly the way I originally worded it in my initial post, lukewarm, which as you say contributed to it not having good legs in it's BO run.
Lukewarm would have lead to better legs. It had under a 2x multiplier domestically.

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Lukewarm would have lead to better legs. It had under a 2x multiplier domestically.
No not at all, your definition of lukewarm must differ from mine, for a movie to have legs to carry it longer at the BO it would need to be a lot more positive than simply lukewarm.

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Old 04-28-2017, 04:58 AM   #57
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I believe that even the general audience views mcu as a movie series. Many people are slightly disappointed with Gotg2 and Spider-Man could be great or also disappointing. Those two movies might hurt Thor's chances just as Wonder Woman could hurt JL's. And of course improve as well.
Are you making this up? Who is disappointed? The movies has gotten good reviews and is certified fresh.

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Old 04-28-2017, 02:41 PM   #58
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I've never used that site, but the likes of IMDb, Metacritic & even Rotten Tomatoes user reviews in which I'm sure there are hundreds of thousands, the last time I checked the movie was getting 6's & 7's out of 10 (60% - 70% out of 100%).
If you read a little deeper, for sites like IMDB and RT, the only ones with lower scores than BvS are SS, Green Lantern, Fant4stic.

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Are you making this up? Who is disappointed? The movies has gotten good reviews and is certified fresh.
Those first reviews, I didn't read them all, but the vibe I got from them said that Vol 2 is indeed a good movie, but not as good as reviewers expected based on the first one.

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Meanwhile Vol.2 in general is getting more than enough praise with its reviews. Lets not start spreading false/misinformed information.

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I've never used that site, but the likes of IMDb, Metacritic & even Rotten Tomatoes user reviews in which I'm sure there are hundreds of thousands, the last time I checked the movie was getting 6's & 7's out of 10 (60% - 70% out of 100%).
Hundreds of thousands (of which many are fanboys that voted 9 or 10/10 before the movie even released) vs the entire movie going audience (the actual box office numbers).

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No not at all, your definition of lukewarm must differ from mine, for a movie to have legs to carry it longer at the BO it would need to be a lot more positive than simply lukewarm.
Definition of "lukewarm": only moderately warm; tepid

Thor: The Dark World recieved lukewarm reviews. BvS was panned, and the Box Office (i.e. the reaction of the general audience) reflected that.

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Justice League. Why? simple, the title says JUSTICE LEAGUE. Casual moviegoers are gonna see it no matter what, its gonna hit a billion, it has 4 weeks to itself before Star Wars comes out, BUT i also believe Ragnarok will make bank, 850-900 million, for sure.

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Justice League. Why? simple, the title says JUSTICE LEAGUE. Casual moviegoers are gonna see it no matter what, its gonna hit a billion
Familiar words. Where have we heard them before? Oh yes pre BvS release when everyone thought the combo of Batman and Superman is a guaranteed billion dollar maker.

And it didn't even get close, and that was with no competition in March to April for weeks.

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Familiar words. Where have we heard them before? Oh yes pre BvS release when everyone thought the combo of Batman and Superman is a guaranteed billion dollar maker.

And it didn't even get close, and that was with no competition in March to April for weeks.
Hey, im just saying, not a fan of the DCEU myself but, maybe the added roster of Flash, Aquaman and Cyborg plus those trailers with the lighter tone might attract more people. Btw, the Transformers movies, they keep getting bigger overseas, might be a similar case with JL.
Although it'd be amazing if Ragnarok managed to outgross them.

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But by that logic shouldn't BvS have been well over a billion just for Batman being in it alone, since his last two solo movies both made a billion. Ergo it should have gotten even bigger being a Batman brand movie. Adding Superman to the mix should have been an even further boost. But it never came within an inch of it. And with no competition in theaters for weeks.

It was pathetic.

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Batman, Superman and WW are the marquee characters here. It's the cast of BvS, but we've also thrown in Aquaman, Flash and Cyborg. BvS should have made more.

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I voted for JL only because it's the best card WB has for their universe and it will take their biggest guns to outgross the MCU. I don't expect any DCEU movie to come close to Avengers numbers but JL will outgross Ragnarok. Not that it will be anything to gloat.

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Justice League. Why? simple, the title says JUSTICE LEAGUE. Casual moviegoers are gonna see it no matter what, its gonna hit a billion, it has 4 weeks to itself before Star Wars comes out, BUT i also believe Ragnarok will make bank, 850-900 million, for sure.
Maybe in america. Most of the casual moviegoers i know haven't got a clue who the justice league is. Tbf not many knew who the avengers were but because iron man was so good they got into it. Avengers was unique. 4 film characters coming together. Justice league isn't unique and they have already seen bats, supes and ww in a film that many didn't like.

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Thor 2, Iron Man 2, Incredible Hulk, The Wolverine all received lukewarm reviews. BvS was panned. You can say the moon is made out of cheese, but...yeah.

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Maybe in america. Most of the casual moviegoers i know haven't got a clue who the justice league is. Tbf not many knew who the avengers were but because iron man was so good they got into it.
I'm in the UK and that's certainly true here.

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Justice League. Why? simple, the title says JUSTICE LEAGUE. Casual moviegoers are gonna see it no matter what, its gonna hit a billion, it has 4 weeks to itself before Star Wars comes out, BUT i also believe Ragnarok will make bank, 850-900 million, for sure.
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BvS. Why? simple, the title says BATMAN VS SUPERMAN. Casual moviegoers are gonna see it no matter what, its gonna hit a billion, it has 4 weeks to itself before Civil War comes out, BUT i also believe Civil War will make bank, 850-900 million, for sure.
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And as a friendly reminder what movie took out BvS from #1. The Boss.

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No not at all, your definition of lukewarm must differ from mine, for a movie to have legs to carry it longer at the BO it would need to be a lot more positive than simply lukewarm.
I liked BvS OK. I didn't think it was great, but didn't dislike it as much as some. Maybe it was because I wasn't expecting a Nolan quality movie to begin with. That being said, I think the public reception of it was quite a bit cooler than tepid, lukewarm, etc. The drops were rather astounding and that is telling.

I think IM2 and TDW got tepid receptions. Thor benefited from the Avengers. Let's face it, BvS clearly under performed considering who the characters were. The fact that we're even talking about the BO of TR and JL in the same sentence is rather remarkable.

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Justice league wins.

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Is it? I'm talking about the actual paying public's reviews & thoughts which ultimately are the driving force behind any potential box office numbers moreso than what a paid & employed critic thinks.
The fact that it had a record opening, then a record 81% Friday-to-Friday drop in its second week shows that the "actual paying public" tended to agree with the "paid & employed" critics.

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