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Old 09-09-2014, 03:58 AM   #26
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i remember years ago there were a couple of phantom movies in the works. what ever hAppened to them ?

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i remember years ago there were a couple of phantom movies in the works. what ever hAppened to them ?
Probably cancelled.

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Time to get things going with The Phantom film. I hope for something that changes the superhero genre
Should it be fun and cheesy, or dealing with more mature elements (Nolan's Batman)?
Do you prefer a more classic adventure or would it be better with a more "up to date" plot (like the politics in Captain America: TWS)?


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Old 09-10-2014, 03:15 AM   #29
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Time to get things going with The Phantom film. I hope for something that changes the superhero genre
Should it be fun and cheesy, or dealing with more mature elements (Nolan's Batman)?
Do you prefer a more classic adventure or would it be better with a more "up to date" plot (like the politics in Captain America: TWS)?
Very good question. I guess if David Yates' Tarzan works, then maybe yet another classic take on The Phantom could as well.

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Old 09-10-2014, 07:05 AM   #30
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Time to get things going with The Phantom film. I hope for something that changes the superhero genre
Should it be fun and cheesy, or dealing with more mature elements (Nolan's Batman)?
Do you prefer a more classic adventure or would it be better with a more "up to date" plot (like the politics in Captain America: TWS)?
A bit of both? I don't want them to "Nolanize" the Phantom.

Something like "The Mask of Zorro", perhaps.


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Old 09-10-2014, 10:10 AM   #31
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It wouldn't be such a bad idea if WB gets movie making rights to The Phantom, at least we will get some financing troubles out of the way, plus they already have rights to Mandrake the magician, Mark Gordon could stay as executive producer.

If WB exes can ensure creative freedom to the directors and producers and if the director stays close to the original source material, it would be ideal situation.

In addition this would ensure that WB have a non DC comic book property so that they can make it without any pressure of DC Vs Marvel rivalry.

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As a major Phantom fan, I'd quite like it to be of a more serious type. I liked what the previous Phantom tried to achieve.
That being said, the idea of it being a pulp character needs to be encompassed at the same time.

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A bit of both? I don't want them to "Nolanize" the Phantom.

Something like "The Mask of Zorro", perhaps.
I'd rather they "Snyderize" The Phantom.

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Noooo, not Schnydah!

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I liked what the previous Phantom tried to achieve.
The one with Billy Zane, or the SyFy miniseries?

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Noooo, not Schnydah!
Yep. Loved Watchmen, and Man of Steel, and I think most would agree that his Batman is looking alot more faithful to the comics than Nolan's. At least visually so far.

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I'd rather they "Snyderize" The Phantom.
Why not "Aronofskysize", as Snyder is busy with bringing DC stuff to the big screen now?
I'm sure he can bring something interesting to the table. The Phantom needs to be an unique film, both its own thing - different from the rest - and also an Indiana Jones/Blood Diamond combo.
I can see a known director do this and spice the film with his own flavors and style. I can also see a nobody director. If the latter is hired, maybe they should pay homage to what Sergio Leone once tried to do.

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Could work! But even if it's set in 1930s, try and bring in social/political messages just like latest Captain America did.

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As a major Phantom fan, I'd quite like it to be of a more serious type.
There is a darkness to The Phantom. They can't ignore that and turn it into a campfest.

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It wouldn't be such a bad idea if WB gets movie making rights to The Phantom, at least we will get some financing troubles out of the way, plus they already have rights to Mandrake the magician, Mark Gordon could stay as executive producer.

If WB exes can ensure creative freedom to the directors and producers and if the director stays close to the original source material, it would be ideal situation.

In addition this would ensure that WB have a non DC comic book property so that they can make it without any pressure of DC Vs Marvel rivalry.
WB having the rights to both Phantom and Mandrake could be interesting (Defenders of the Earth *wink wink* )
Creative/artistic freedom it's a must. I don't want a bland mainstream popcorn flic. It needs to stand on its own legs.
I don't agree with you that there won't be any pressure, though. WB's Phantom will sort of be in the "superhero genre" and there's always competition.


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The one with Billy Zane, or the SyFy miniseries?
The Billy Zane one.

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I can see a known director do this and spice the film with his own flavors and style. I can also see a nobody director. If the latter is hired, maybe they should pay homage to what Sergio Leone once tried to do.

Could work! But even if it's set in 1930s, try and bring in social/political messages just like latest Captain America did.

There is a darkness to The Phantom. They can't ignore that and turn it into a campfest.
I've often wondered what Leone's take on The Phantom would have been like! Would it have been camp like Flash Gordon, or more ambitious like Superman:The Movie? It would be great if there is conceptual art for the project somewhere around. I've also been curious about Joe Dante's original script which had a winged demon.

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I've often wondered what Leone's take on The Phantom would have been like! Would it have been camp like Flash Gordon.
No way it would have been camp!!!! He didn't do that kind of films. Neither did Clint Eastwood, and HE was supposed to play the role.
Take a look at the Italian director's resume and then try to imagine how "Sergio Leone's The Phantom" would have turned out. As for myself, I imagine a little bit of Dollar trilogy (but with an African setting), a little bit of "Once upon..." (Kit goes to America).

IF enough storyboards, plot outlays or concept art are found, they could make the film as close as possible to what it was intended to be.
Maybe a complete djungle western (lol) with the hero fighting corrupt colonialists and treasure seekers during early 1900s, or going against criminals in a 1930s Chicago setting. Why not both?
But in case of paying homage, Ennio Morricone must compose the score.

I wonder if good old Clint remember something about this cancelled project. We need to ask him that.

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No way it would have been camp!!!! He didn't do that kind of films. Neither did Clint Eastwood, and HE was supposed to play the role.
Take a look at the Italian director's resume and then try to imagine how "Sergio Leone's The Phantom" would have turned out. As for myself, I imagine a little bit of Dollar trilogy (but with an African setting), a little bit of "Once upon..." (Kit goes to America).

IF enough storyboards, plot outlays or concept art are found, they could make the film as close as possible to what it was intended to be.
Maybe a complete djungle western (lol) with the hero fighting corrupt colonialists and treasure seekers during early 1900s, or going against criminals in a 1930s Chicago setting. Why not both?
But in case of paying homage, Ennio Morricone must compose the score.

I wonder if good old Clint remember something about this cancelled project. We need to ask him that.
I guess to me what comes to mind is something like the 1975 Zorro film with Alain Delon, which had Spaghetti Western elements to it. I can also think if Leone would have lent his visual talents to a concept like Tarzan and The Valley of Gold or Tarzan and The Great River, but with more budget, that I see as what could have been something along the lines of his Phantom.

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I didn't like that Zorro movie that weird dog...imagine a Devil like that.

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I didn't like that Zorro movie that weird dog...imagine a Devil like that.
...I will say I could have done without that theme song. heh. Other than that I find it a well-crafted take.

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Here's to you and me! Here's to being free! Lalalalalala Zorro's back!

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It's performed by Oliver Onions, dude. But not one of their best pop songs, LOL

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It's performed by Oliver Onions, dude. But not one of their best pop songs, LOL
I agree, I prefer "Yor's world, he's the maa-an!!!"


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It's performed by Oliver Onions, dude. But not one of their best pop songs, LOL
I didn't realize. I mean it's not a terrible tune to listen to, it's just that it doesn't belong in the film.

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Anyways, going back to what could have been Sergio Leone's Phantom, here's what my dream cast would have been(assuming this would have been around the 70's):

The Phantom/Kit Walker: John Phillip Law

Diana Palmer: Anne Archer

Guran: John Kitzmiller

Captain Melville Horton: Michael York

Kabai Singh: Christopher Lee

Sala: Ornella Muti

Prince Achmed Singh: Horst Buchholz

The Baroness: Ursula Andress

Dabi: Woody Strode


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I didn't like that Zorro movie that weird dog...imagine a Devil like that.
Asesino was awesome!

Takes on the whole army hear...
(should open to the right spot, if not, jump to the time indicated)
5:49 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msXcH_zvjxs#t=349

Knows the secret to the lair of the fox...
5:38 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2Uo7J8gdNE#t=338

Plus he anticipated Ace the Bat-hound (who used to be a brown German Shepard) now becoming a black Great Dane by a few decades.

And as a Phantom phan, you have to give it up for the devilish dog sidekick.
Or not!

That 70s Spaghetti take on Zorro was a bit to over the top, although a fun take on the character. LOL @ Oliver Onions song, so bad it was catchy.
Leone's Phantom may have had some similar elements though, but I agree he probably would have gone a bit more serious with it.
From what I understand it would have been closer to the time he did Once Upon in America.


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