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Old Yesterday, 11:45 AM   #576
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Exactly. If she enjoyed burning people alive she would have done it with the captured soldiers and not offered a choice at all.
She has no shortage of targets if it was for fun. I think of Daenerys as more of an Empress Matilda figure, ruthless in getting what she thinks needs doing, done. You kind of have to have an ego to think you should be ruling everything, everywhere.

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Old Yesterday, 11:46 AM   #577
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I would think her Drogan's interaction with Jon caused a pretty big leap in faith in him. You could see it on her face. They've been getting to know each other in general but that was a big one.
That was huge. Almost game, set and match just in that moment.

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Old Yesterday, 11:47 AM   #578
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Yeah, I don't buy into this "Dany is evil" stuff.

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Old Yesterday, 12:06 PM   #579
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evil isn't the word... but shes pretty grey area'd.

locking two people in a safe to suffer sold me on that.

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How long do you think it took for Xaro to eat Doreah? Half an hour? 45 minutes, tops.

And then they were locked in a vault together.

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Old Yesterday, 12:33 PM   #581
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they probably played marco polo for days

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evil isn't the word... but shes pretty grey area'd.

locking two people in a safe to suffer sold me on that.
Yeah but was that Dany's true persona or just the writers figuring out something cool to do with that hyped up safe?

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I think he's referencing the book theory that Tormund "Husband of Bears" Giantsbane may have snuck across the wall and... known Maege "We live on Bear Island and have a Bear sigil" Mormont or one of her daughters, since the books make a point that at least two generations of Mormont women have raised a small sleuth of daughters without naming the father.

It's also just possible that Tormund doesn't call out Lyanna because he knows better.
Ohhhhhh.....I didn't even know about that theory!

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Yeah but was that Dany's true persona or just the writers figuring out something cool to do with that hyped up safe?
she also burned the witch alive in season 1... killed one of her biggest fans (daario beheaded him) because he killed a master... which she has done ten fold... burned the unsullied masters because she simply didn't like them and their ways... no trial or anything...

she's a grey character doesnt mean she is evil, there are 50 shades of


oh god someone shoot me.

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How long do you think it took for Xaro to eat Doreah? Half an hour? 45 minutes, tops.

And then they were locked in a vault together.
And then she ate him.

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They then proceeded to show Dany's more humanizing moments (her genuine happiness at Sir Friendzone's return, and her clearly being upset at her future Boyfrie....I mean Jon's leaving to go beyond the wall). Also her obvious love for her dragons (her face when Jon didn't immediately agree with them being beautiful was such an "upset mom" face, it was hilarious).

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Yeah but was that Dany's true persona or just the writers figuring out something cool to do with that hyped up safe?
Doesn't matter, but if the writers choose to write some sick and twisted stuff for characters that we are supposed to like and root for, they shouldn't have done it then.

Take Jaimi for instance. When we first meet him, he's a jerk. He pushes a young boy out the window. Later on, he seems to get better, but then he has this random rape/sex thing with Cersei next to his dead son. It was just such an extreme moment that had me like, WTH? A couple of episodes later, and he's giving Brienne a Valerian steel and tells her to find the Stark girls and make sure they are safe. Serious, what do these writers want from us as viewers, to view this character as?

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Doesn't matter, but if the writers choose to write some sick and twisted stuff for characters that we are supposed to like and root for, they shouldn't have done it then.

Take Jaimi for instance. When we first meet him, he's a jerk. He pushes a young boy out the window. Later on, he seems to get better, but then he has this random rape/sex thing with Cersei next to his dead son. It was just such an extreme moment that had me like, WTH? A couple of episodes later, and he's giving Brienne a Valerian steel and tells her to find the Stark girls and make sure they are safe. Serious, what do these writers want from us as viewers, to view this character as?
Human. With great depths of negative aspects and great depths of positive aspects.

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