The SuperHeroHype Forums  

Go Back   The SuperHeroHype Forums > TV Series > Daredevil

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 09-17-2017, 03:41 PM   #26
Random490
Side-Kick
 
Random490's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Posts: 1,080
Default Re: Why Season 3 Should Not Be... SPOILERS

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spider-Aziz View Post
I have no memory of that one.
Season One in Stick's episode. At the end Stick reports to a guy who had a bunch of scars on his back who asks "Will Murdock be ready?" and Stick Replies "I don't know"

That was a recreation of a panel teasing comic character named Stone (Stick and Stone, get it?) but we haven't seen any of him since and with Stick stating all of the chaste are dead we are left to assume he died off screen.

Random490 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2017, 06:03 PM   #27
Spider-Aziz
Death Match Taunt
 
Spider-Aziz's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 66,729
Default Re: Why Season 3 Should Not Be... SPOILERS

Quote:
Originally Posted by Random490 View Post
Season One in Stick's episode. At the end Stick reports to a guy who had a bunch of scars on his back who asks "Will Murdock be ready?" and Stick Replies "I don't know"

That was a recreation of a panel teasing comic character named Stone (Stick and Stone, get it?) but we haven't seen any of him since and with Stick stating all of the chaste are dead we are left to assume he died off screen.
I was wondering if he appeared in that episode. Thanks.

__________________
FIGHT CLUB: Marvel vs DC, ANYTHING
STATE YOUR OPINION ON A CHARACTER: MARVEL, DC

YOUTUBE
To Quit or not to Quit, that is the question.

The internet: You formed your personal opinion and liked something popular? You are part of the herd. You like something new and unpopular? Cult of the new.
Spider-Aziz is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-17-2017, 11:57 PM   #28
TheVileOne
Side-Kick
 
TheVileOne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: California
Posts: 49,319
Default Re: Why Season 3 Should Not Be... SPOILERS

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spider-Aziz View Post
I have no memory of that one.
I can understand why. It was a short little scene, and again, it was never revisited or referenced again afterward. For starters, it seemed that Stick probably answered to that mysterious person, who turned out to be Stone in the comics, but he never had a name in that episode or after.

__________________
"This is true. This is real. This . . . Is . . . Straight Edge."

- CM Punk
TheVileOne is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2017, 02:11 AM   #29
dmcreif
Side-Kick
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 115
Default Re: Why Season 3 Should Not Be... SPOILERS

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheVileOne View Post
I can understand why. It was a short little scene, and again, it was never revisited or referenced again afterward. For starters, it seemed that Stick probably answered to that mysterious person, who turned out to be Stone in the comics, but he never had a name in that episode or after.
They probably would've expanded more on that guy had Daredevil not gotten a second season so unexpectedly.

dmcreif is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-12-2017, 02:56 AM   #30
TheVileOne
Side-Kick
 
TheVileOne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: California
Posts: 49,319
Default Re: Why Season 3 Should Not Be... SPOILERS

Quote:
Originally Posted by dmcreif View Post
They probably would've expanded more on that guy had Daredevil not gotten a second season so unexpectedly.
I'm not sure why that'd be the case. The show was a breakout hit yeah, but I'm sure they wanted to tell more stories and continue the shows if at all possible.

__________________
"This is true. This is real. This . . . Is . . . Straight Edge."

- CM Punk
TheVileOne is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2017, 03:16 PM   #31
dmcreif
Side-Kick
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 115
Default Re: Why Season 3 Should Not Be... SPOILERS

Quote:
Originally Posted by TheVileOne View Post
I know a lot of people are going nuts over the end the first season of The Defenders and talking about how it means we are going to see Born Again. But I'm not so sure.

I think it's just another lift from the comics so to speak, and they won't be solely adapting Born Again for next season. Plus, I just don't think the series is in a good place to go that route.

In Born Again, Matt's life falls apart systematically due to the machinations of the Kingpin. And what's it triggered by? It's triggered by Karen Page selling off Matt's secret identity in exchange for a drug fix. Karen is not in that place right now. Quite frankly, the way Karen has been built in the show, I doubt we ever see her go to that place. Not to mention, Born Again is just as much as about Karen hitting rock bottom and rebuilding herself as well.

I think we might see a few lifts and elements from Born Again like we saw at the end of Defenders, but I don't think that means it's time to do that adaptation of the story.

Matt's already lost quite a bit. He no longer has a law office. He has no legal partner. Foggy is on his own and working with a giant law firm now. He and Karen were still apart as of Defenders. It doesn't make much sense to put him through the wringer like that at this point in time. In order to do the Born Again storyline, Matt should be rebuilt more.

Plus, we still haven't even gotten a Bullseye story yet.
And the thing about Karen and selling out Matt's identity that becomes a problem to adapt is that Deborah Ann Woll's Karen is a completely different character from her comics counterpart. The Karen we have in the MCU isn't the kind of character who could be blackmailed by Fisk. It would take something incredibly big for her to do anything for Fisk.

dmcreif is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2017, 03:19 PM   #32
dmcreif
Side-Kick
 
Join Date: Sep 2017
Posts: 115
Default Re: Why Season 3 Should Not Be... SPOILERS

Quote:
Originally Posted by pixen View Post
Anyone that expects Born Again to play out like in the comics need to realize that it won't happen. They will do what they did with everything else and adapt it and make it their own. So yes, I see Season 3 being a loose adaption of Born Again, in terms of theme and the general idea of it.
Say that about any comics storyline. The themes of Born Again, that I can live with. Even some of the individual story elements could be used. But there's so many major deviations that Earth-616's "Born Again" will never be translated page by page to the screen.

IIRC, "The Man Without Fear" was one of a few story arcs that were used to inspire the creation of season 1, as well as a bit of Matt's background with Elektra in season 2.

dmcreif is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-14-2017, 06:13 PM   #33
TheVileOne
Side-Kick
 
TheVileOne's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: California
Posts: 49,319
Default Re: Why Season 3 Should Not Be... SPOILERS

Quote:
Originally Posted by dmcreif View Post
And the thing about Karen and selling out Matt's identity that becomes a problem to adapt is that Deborah Ann Woll's Karen is a completely different character from her comics counterpart. The Karen we have in the MCU isn't the kind of character who could be blackmailed by Fisk. It would take something incredibly big for her to do anything for Fisk.
She wasn't blackmailed into doing anything in Born Again. She never did anything with Fisk. She sold off Daredevil's identity to a random drug dealer just to get a drug fix because her addiction was that bad.

__________________
"This is true. This is real. This . . . Is . . . Straight Edge."

- CM Punk
TheVileOne is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 02:20 PM.

monitoring_string = "dee460792f24517621e3ca080805de7e"



Powered by vBulletin®
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SuperHeroHype.com is a property of CraveOnline Media, LLC, an Evolve Media, LLC company. ©2017 All Rights Reserved.