MVP of the Defenders? - Page 4

Flint Marko · 08-21-2017, 06:55 AM

Think I'm gonna give it to JJ.

Set · 08-21-2017, 09:27 AM

Jessica got to use both her detective skills and her fists, so she got to contribute on multiple levels. She even lampshaded her own lack of fighting skills, and how she was the only one left who didn't know karate, which was fun.

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Luke's 'Hero of Harlem' status wasn't terribly relevant, and his connection to Misty mostly consisted of doing everything in his power to get her fired, and then possibly killed, by refusing to tell her anything. He got to punch a lot of face, but felt underutilized.

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Matt had a nice courtroom scene at the beginning, but it wasn't particularly relevant, and neither was his legal mind, for that matter. He got to punch face *gloriously,* but, again, only half of him (the Devil of Hell's Kitchen half) really contributed to the narrative.

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Danny tried to drag his Rand ties into it by barging into the Midland conference room, and bring both halves of his life to bear on the matter, but, sigh. Danny. He darn near handed victory to the bad-guys, more than once. I love the comic book character, but this Danny needs a spanking. Or perhaps some mood-stabilizing meds.

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Matt gave better fight-scenes, and his emotional ties to Elektra made it tense, but Jessica felt more like an MVP to me, since she brought both real world skills and Fighty-McPunchaLot to the table.

Steyin · 08-22-2017, 08:51 AM

Jessica easily.

Iceman · 08-22-2017, 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Set

Jessica got to use both her detective skills and her fists, so she got to contribute on multiple levels. She even lampshaded her own lack of fighting skills, and how she was the only one left who didn't know karate, which was fun.

.

Luke's 'Hero of Harlem' status wasn't terribly relevant, and his connection to Misty mostly consisted of doing everything in his power to get her fired, and then possibly killed, by refusing to tell her anything. He got to punch a lot of face, but felt underutilized.

.

Matt had a nice courtroom scene at the beginning, but it wasn't particularly relevant, and neither was his legal mind, for that matter. He got to punch face *gloriously,* but, again, only half of him (the Devil of Hell's Kitchen half) really contributed to the narrative.

.

Danny tried to drag his Rand ties into it by barging into the Midland conference room, and bring both halves of his life to bear on the matter, but, sigh. Danny. He darn near handed victory to the bad-guys, more than once. I love the comic book character, but this Danny needs a spanking. Or perhaps some mood-stabilizing meds.

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Matt gave better fight-scenes, and his emotional ties to Elektra made it tense, but Jessica felt more like an MVP to me, since she brought both real world skills and Fighty-McPunchaLot to the table.

I loved JJ, but she didn't do a whole lot with her fists or her powers apart from the odd knock out punch. If we judge Matt's non fighting stuff as weaker here then I'd say the same for JJ's fighting. And I'm not saying she isn't a worthy MVP, just bringing that up.

javonstokess · 08-22-2017, 09:07 AM

I think Luke Cage, to me, was MVP.

He was the most level headed of the bunch and, many times, called out the importance of what they were doing moreso than even IF (who, when you boil it down, is still out for revenge).

Luke called out everyone on their dumb@$$ery and was right.

Tony Stark · 08-22-2017, 11:02 AM

Daredevil. He was the leader and consciousness of the team.

scarlet-witch · 08-23-2017, 07:51 AM

Matt is always the MVP. I liked Jessica and Danny far better in this than I did in their solo shows. Especially Danny (Not that I disliked Jessica as a character, but I didn't like her show)

Harry_Lime02 · 08-23-2017, 08:10 AM

Jessica, most evidently in the first couple of episodes when they were all separated.

JayTrain · 08-23-2017, 11:05 PM

Easily Daredevil. I really don't get all the love for Jessica; a few snarky comments and references to her alcoholism and she's amazing?

Darepool · 08-25-2017, 11:22 PM

She is amazing, but it's DD all the way.

JayTrain · 08-26-2017, 07:03 PM

What does she do that's amazing? I'm really not trying to rip on her, but I really want to know what everyone sees in her...seemingly I'm the only one that does NOT think she's awesome; indicative that there's something strange going on in my head lol

Darepool · 08-26-2017, 07:40 PM

She's broken and beautiful, it's her FU attitude & her biting (funny) sarcasm. She's a functioning alcoholic who kicks ninja a$$. I think people respond to all this which is why they like her so much. The other Defenders just don't know what to do with her. She's the unpredictable wildcard. Overall, a sexy hot mess.

If we're going strictly story based, then she is far from the MVP. That would be DD and/or IF.

KevTravels · 08-26-2017, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JayTrain

What does she do that's amazing? I'm really not trying to rip on her, but I really want to know what everyone sees in her...seemingly I'm the only one that does NOT think she's awesome; indicative that there's something strange going on in my head lol

On the surface she looks one-note to some. But there is something about Ritter's performance that easily makes her the best out of all of them even if she had very little involved to the story.

Lantern Venom · 08-30-2017, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by javonstokess

I think Luke Cage, to me, was MVP.

He was the most level headed of the bunch and, many times, called out the importance of what they were doing moreso than even IF (who, when you boil it down, is still out for revenge).

Luke called out everyone on their dumb@$$ery and was right.

That's how I felt as I watched the story unfold. Luke was the only one to keep his emotions in check in both dealing with his new running buddies and staying focused on the end game.

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Originally Posted by JayTrain

What does she do that's amazing? I'm really not trying to rip on her, but I really want to know what everyone sees in her...seemingly I'm the only one that does NOT think she's awesome; indicative that there's something strange going on in my head lol

There's nothing wrong with your perception of her. It's obvious that she's being written as the most reluctant hero of the four. She doesn't even seem to have much enthusiasm for being a detective right now. Watching her use booze as her main coping mechanism was only funny for a short time. Now it's pathetic, especially for a super hero, and the emo teen attitude is wearing thin. She's clearly being set up for the cathartic moment where she releases her emotional baggage and stops wallowing in her myopic sadness.

SwiftFox · 08-30-2017, 04:39 PM

It came down to DD or Jessica Jones. I went Jessica Jones because of her last minute save with the elevator and her just keeping it real with all her snark XD

The_Manhunter · 09-18-2017, 01:39 PM

Jessica. Ritter is just awesome lol

KevTravels · 09-19-2017, 06:43 AM

i hope we get more scenes of JJ kicking some major butt

Brawl · 10-06-2017, 03:11 PM

I'm sorry I don't see the appeal of JJ at all, Rosario beat her hands down acting. She's not attractive at all. She always looks pissed off and self destructive. She can't cant get her **** together.... I'm sorry don't see the appeal

pixen · 10-06-2017, 10:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Brawl

I'm sorry I don't see the appeal of JJ at all, Rosario beat her hands down acting. She's not attractive at all. She always looks pissed off and self destructive. She can't cant get her **** together.... I'm sorry don't see the appeal

Attractive? Always pissed off and self-destructive? She's not perfect? I love how 2 out of 3 of these can be applied to all of the Defenders and you only use it to bring her down.

Daredevil - Not Attractive - Always pissed off/self-destructive - Not perfect
Luke Cage - Not Attractive - Always pissed off/self-destructive - Not perfect
Iron Fist - Not Attractive - Always pissed off/self-destructive - Not perfect

Brawl · 10-06-2017, 11:15 PM

I posted earlier that that they were all pretty emotionally ****ed up except LC. DD was super emo and IF was downright bratty. I only talked about JJ becaue of the amount of positive reviews for her seemed wildly out place

Brawl · 10-06-2017, 11:19 PM

I thought the better characters portrayed was actually Night Nurse, collene wing and Misty, all seemed strong and relatable.

metaphysician · 10-09-2017, 05:39 PM

Eh, Luke Cage is very seldom either genuinely pissed off, or self-destructive. He's the cool, calm, collected one of the bunch.

Iron_Stark · 10-19-2017, 12:57 PM

Daredevil and Jessica

Surfer · 10-20-2017, 04:22 PM

Yeah, had to vote for Daredevil, but felt Jessica Jones was a close 2nd.

Surfer

View Poll Results: Who's the MVP of the Defenders?
Luke Cage	5	4.81%
Jessica Jones	37	35.58%
Iron Fist	11	10.58%
Daredevil	51	49.04%
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08-21-2017, 09:27 AM	#77
Set Side-Kick Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 130	Re: MVP of the Defenders? Jessica got to use both her detective skills and her fists, so she got to contribute on multiple levels. She even lampshaded her own lack of fighting skills, and how she was the only one left who didn't know karate, which was fun. . Luke's 'Hero of Harlem' status wasn't terribly relevant, and his connection to Misty mostly consisted of doing everything in his power to get her fired, and then possibly killed, by refusing to tell her anything. He got to punch a lot of face, but felt underutilized. . Matt had a nice courtroom scene at the beginning, but it wasn't particularly relevant, and neither was his legal mind, for that matter. He got to punch face gloriously, but, again, only half of him (the Devil of Hell's Kitchen half) really contributed to the narrative. . Danny tried to drag his Rand ties into it by barging into the Midland conference room, and bring both halves of his life to bear on the matter, but, sigh. Danny. He darn near handed victory to the bad-guys, more than once. I love the comic book character, but this Danny needs a spanking. Or perhaps some mood-stabilizing meds. . Matt gave better fight-scenes, and his emotional ties to Elektra made it tense, but Jessica felt more like an MVP to me, since she brought both real world skills and Fighty-McPunchaLot to the table.

08-22-2017, 08:51 AM	#78
Steyin Bidding you ADIEU! Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Brooklyn, NY Posts: 3,601	Re: MVP of the Defenders? Jessica easily. __________________ I'm just a kid from Brooklyn My LEGO Gallery

08-22-2017, 09:07 AM	#80
javonstokess Side-Kick Join Date: Dec 2015 Posts: 1,960	Re: MVP of the Defenders? I think Luke Cage, to me, was MVP. He was the most level headed of the bunch and, many times, called out the importance of what they were doing moreso than even IF (who, when you boil it down, is still out for revenge). Luke called out everyone on their dumb@$$ery and was right.

08-22-2017, 11:02 AM	#81
Tony Stark Armored Avenger! Join Date: May 2002 Location: In a cave with a box of scraps Posts: 10,932	Re: MVP of the Defenders? Daredevil. He was the leader and consciousness of the team. __________________ "You have a metal arm? That's awesome dude!"

08-23-2017, 07:51 AM	#82
scarlet-witch Stormborn Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Winterfell Posts: 2,780	Re: MVP of the Defenders? Matt is always the MVP. I liked Jessica and Danny far better in this than I did in their solo shows. Especially Danny (Not that I disliked Jessica as a character, but I didn't like her show) __________________ "Apes. Together. Strong."

08-23-2017, 08:10 AM	#83
Harry_Lime02 This is the girl Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: UK Posts: 1,743	Re: MVP of the Defenders? Jessica, most evidently in the first couple of episodes when they were all separated. __________________ In life you have to do a lot of things you don't want to do. Many times, that's what life is - one vile task after another.

08-23-2017, 11:05 PM	#84
JayTrain Newbie Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 3	Re: MVP of the Defenders? Easily Daredevil. I really don't get all the love for Jessica; a few snarky comments and references to her alcoholism and she's amazing?

08-25-2017, 11:22 PM	#85
Darepool King of Cinema Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Planet Kirby Posts: 1,748	Re: MVP of the Defenders? She is amazing, but it's DD all the way. __________________ The Pool Without Fear

08-26-2017, 07:03 PM	#86
JayTrain Newbie Join Date: Aug 2017 Posts: 3	Re: MVP of the Defenders? What does she do that's amazing? I'm really not trying to rip on her, but I really want to know what everyone sees in her...seemingly I'm the only one that does NOT think she's awesome; indicative that there's something strange going on in my head lol

08-26-2017, 07:40 PM	#87
Darepool King of Cinema Join Date: Oct 2016 Location: Planet Kirby Posts: 1,748	Re: MVP of the Defenders? She's broken and beautiful, it's her FU attitude & her biting (funny) sarcasm. She's a functioning alcoholic who kicks ninja a$$. I think people respond to all this which is why they like her so much. The other Defenders just don't know what to do with her. She's the unpredictable wildcard. Overall, a sexy hot mess. If we're going strictly story based, then she is far from the MVP. That would be DD and/or IF. Last edited by Darepool; 08-26-2017 at 08:10 PM.

08-30-2017, 04:39 PM	#90
SwiftFox Side-Kick Join Date: Jun 2015 Posts: 732	Re: MVP of the Defenders? It came down to DD or Jessica Jones. I went Jessica Jones because of her last minute save with the elevator and her just keeping it real with all her snark XD __________________ Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience. Co-Host of the Attilan Rising Podcast

09-18-2017, 01:39 PM	#91
The_Manhunter DCEU & MCU Fan Join Date: Sep 2013 Posts: 2,255	Re: MVP of the Defenders? Jessica. Ritter is just awesome lol __________________ Favorite CBMs 1) Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice 2) The Avengers: Age of Ultron 3) Man of Steel 4) Guardians of the Galaxy 5) The Dark Knight 6) Doctor Strange 7) Wonder Woman 8) Captain America: Civil War 9) The Dark Knight Rises 10) The Avengers 11) Thor: The Dark World 12) Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 13) Iron Man 14) Captain America: The Winter Soldier 15) X-Men: Days of Future Past 16) Thor 17) Batman Begins 18) Logan 19) Ant-Man 20) Iron Man 2 21) Suicide Squad

09-19-2017, 06:43 AM	#92
KevTravels Side-Kick Join Date: May 2017 Posts: 1,084	Re: MVP of the Defenders? i hope we get more scenes of JJ kicking some major butt

10-06-2017, 03:11 PM	#93
Brawl Side-Kick Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 483	Re: MVP of the Defenders? I'm sorry I don't see the appeal of JJ at all, Rosario beat her hands down acting. She's not attractive at all. She always looks pissed off and self destructive. She can't cant get her **** together.... I'm sorry don't see the appeal

10-06-2017, 11:15 PM	#95
Brawl Side-Kick Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 483	Re: MVP of the Defenders? I posted earlier that that they were all pretty emotionally ****ed up except LC. DD was super emo and IF was downright bratty. I only talked about JJ becaue of the amount of positive reviews for her seemed wildly out place

10-06-2017, 11:19 PM	#96
Brawl Side-Kick Join Date: Oct 2010 Posts: 483	Re: MVP of the Defenders? I thought the better characters portrayed was actually Night Nurse, collene wing and Misty, all seemed strong and relatable.

10-09-2017, 05:39 PM	#97
metaphysician Not a Side-Kick Join Date: Mar 2012 Posts: 10,685	Re: MVP of the Defenders? Eh, Luke Cage is very seldom either genuinely pissed off, or self-destructive. He's the cool, calm, collected one of the bunch.

10-19-2017, 12:57 PM	#98
Iron_Stark That's a one-off Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Stark Mansion Posts: 7,051	Re: MVP of the Defenders? Daredevil and Jessica __________________ AVENGERS: Infinity War May 3, 2019

10-20-2017, 04:22 PM	#99
Surfer Sentinel of the Spaceways Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 2,739	Re: MVP of the Defenders? Yeah, had to vote for Daredevil, but felt Jessica Jones was a close 2nd. Surfer __________________ Don't forget to vote for the KILLIAN Vs. DRAX fight http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=535213 *New MCU battles will be held each week in the Marvel Films forum!* Join our discussion on the MCU's Power Tier - http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?t=535009

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